I like the new Domi idea, and hope that it will be extended to the Navy Domi.

Huge tracking advantages for sentries sounds good, and unbonused high slots makes for interesting fits, from projectile, hybrid, laser, RR. In most PVE fits you'll only see 5 or 4 turrets as you need a drone link augmenter or two for most missions.

I would like to see some sort of sentry drone recall (drone tractor system built into the hull?) so you can actually move with a droneboat and enable more flexible sentry RR fleet doctrines and the ability to use droneboats in missions where the gates are far apart. As is you can't even orbit your drones with any confidence of being able to recall them; even one 3500 m away means you have to turn around and approach, taking an extra 15-30 seconds which is more than a little irritating.

Increasing the sig radius is bad form when the Domi is currently a sentry boat because it already has to sit still and speed tanking isn't much of an option.

This seems like a more flexible and useful ship that is more explicitly drone oriented. The fit that suffers the most is the 2000 dps brawler with a full rack of neutrons and heavies, and I'm sure that will make some people sad.

-12% EFT DPS in the max damage full rack of neutrons that is compensated by vastly better damage application with drones, much more tank, more powergrid to fit more modules, more powerful guns...

Not sure how this is a major nerf. This makes the Domi much more flexible, and in most cases more powerful.

8 high = 8 turrets

6 mid slots

8 lows

150 m3 drone bay 125 bdwt

Gallente Hybrid bonus: 7.5% ROF and tracking per Gallente Battleship level
Gallente Drone bonus: can deploy a supplemental light scout/logistic drone per level of advanced Gallente battleship skill
Serpentis bonus: 20% range and strength of stasis webfiers and warp jamming systems

Don't thank me CCP, just send me a couple 10 copy BPC's to show your respect for my knowledge of Gallente philosophy and how they should operate.

I would not complain at all if that was brouhght along same capacitor of gallente ships, and the MASSIVE damage advantage.

I play this game for almost 7 years. And on all races (aldari less than others) when accountign my several characters. And I am yet to ONCE.. a SINGLE TIME.. get out of cap in a PVP fight (not counting POS shooting as a fight) unless I am being neutralized.

The cap usage of balsters is not a huige deal at all. A single cycle of the MWD uses as much cap as you use in a small fight.

As of now I prefer gallente ships a LOT more than minmatar ships (sicne the blaster buffs)

Agreed and i think this is probably the best direction to go ... it seems more synchronus as well .. however instead of a veloicty bonus i would give it a 5-10% Drone control range bonus per level to further synchronize the ship with its intended role as a sentry sniper. the velocity bonus does nothing for sentries but the control range will help by freeing up the 2 utility highs. this is much more acceptable to me even at the loss of another turret slot. and this is coming from someone with all Large turret specs to 4. trust me i like my guns ... i like my drones more though =)

this way you can fit 4x turret and 2x DLA in highs and be competitive with Rokh's+Naga's in a sniper role with sentries being able to follow an attck target command to 120km roughly depending on skils (still need Sebo's to make this work)... the 15% to drone dmg really is needed instead of 10% since even with the optimal range bonus and if u fitted additional Omni's u are not going to be using gardes at this range since its still well outside opitmal for them.

but the gardes would be more inline with the antimatter rokh+Naga ranges and dmg so it would have some compareability dmg projection wise.and the dominix would have something that its better then the geddon at aka being higher drone damage and application..

A higher bay would allow you to mix up several sets of sentries so it not so predictable and means your DPS isnt so easily destroyed.

this seems much more streamlined in my eyes .. but still this is going to be an immobile sitting duck fleet while sentries are deployed regardless.

now to make this work you need to allow ships to stay aligned while not moving ... not sure if this is an easy fix or not. otherwise this is still going to be subpar due to game mechanics

the scoop range should be extended a bit. if i deploy sentries right after coming out of warp in my domi i can still float past them out of docking range before i come to complete stop. another thing that would help droneboats in general alot would allow drones to autodock if u initiate a warp and they are in docking range.

without that i can easily see a FC warping the sentry fleet thats aligned at 0 speed(if this can be fixed) and losing all their sentries.

You're forgetting the offensive bonus change. Instead of a damage bonus it gets a rate of fire bonus. It provides more blaster DPS than before which makes the magnetic field stabilizers more effective.

They don't litsen because the current dominix is a peice of garbage, it embodies everything wrong with oldcshool ship designs. Split weaponsystems, insufficient fittings and options to capitalize on either very well. It's basically just a weaker megathron with 5 midslots now. We don't need three sub 20k gank blasterboats in the gallente lineup where two are only used with plates to camp in low/highsec and one is used with links for PVP videos.

Most dominixes today in the practical sense are equipped for using sentries and these changes will be insanely good. We might finally see a gallente presence in Battleship fleets. Sentries will have better range and tracking than pulse laser fits but they leave you with alot less mobility as a compromise.


Tiericide on the battleship level was much better than on the BC/Cruiser level as the roles are somewhat different now without going outside each races traditional strengths.

On the one hand, 3 drone damage mods and sentry drone damage rigs gives you 700dps from gardes.... On the other hand, that would be virtually impossible to use in most situations.

The domi doesn't feel like it'll be a fun ship to fly even though it might have some ******** and potentially OP stats..

Then use the goddamn megathron, seriously. Again, no race needs three short range gankboats as their main battleships.

It's so stupid to argue this.




I don't have a link but i remember a dev blog from not to long ago stating that drones will get reworked. I also remember sentry drones getting a 200ms orbit velocity as a part of these changes. They won't make it to odyssey though as it seem right now.

I don't know what you're smoking but lets look at the mega: right now with 3 damage mods it has a 4.33 ROF and 3700 volley with AM t1. The new mega will have 3.25 ROF with 2961 volley. So in 10 volleys or 43 seconds the old mega could do 37k damage, the new mega will do that 37k damage in 40 seconds only. In 43 seconds it would've done 40k damage, unless my math is way off. And lets face it, ships which the mega could be fighting should have more than 40k EHP.
The real nerf for the mega is the price tag which is 50 mil higher than the current.

BTW I think we will be seeing less and less solo and small gang BS's since 90% of the changes are not really buffs at all, just some radical changes, and some are outright nerfs and yet the price tag is higher , in fact for the ex tier 1s it will be 100% increase, and trust me when I say that, the changes for tier 1s and for tier 2s DO NOT IMPROVE THE SHIPS BY 100%. BS is still a fatter less mobile gank bait, which as of summer of 2013 you won't be able to lose with gusto


Why does this fu-üking forum keep eating my posts and saves drafts ??? It piss-¦s me off to no end.

Drones are now more versatile (in their potential targets).

The loss of turret dps mean it is now less gank oriented : less specialized. You now have less incentive to use high slots for hybrid guns only : that is less specialization.

Gun performances are lowered indeed, which mean the Domi is less specialized in its gank role, hence have less potential in this area, but the loss of incentive to go this road mean it's more prone to not be this way, hence more prone to vary its fitting.

That's the bad end of creating versatility, by reducing it's specialization, but it received a specialisation in drones to compensate, which are a more versatile oriented weapon. Should sentries be fixed, and the Dominix will be amazing. Until then, it didn't lost a lot on the gun field (at BEST, 12,5% dps if the guns acounted for half of the previous dps ; as it was mostly not the case, it's often less than 10% dps loss), but its drones became more versatile. That is the good end of creating the versatility.

And the birth of the drone geddon is not a removal of Dominix versatility. Versatility is NOT being the best at everything but having the ability to do everything. The Armageddon is more specialized toward fleet neutralizing platform, because of the bonus, but also because of the one less midslot.

The Dominix will now be the best drone ship, and a jack of all trade for everything else : rather good for everything, best for nothing. The Armageddon, if better for neuting, have far less potential.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Dominix was the only one for the place of T1 drone ship. Any addition to drone something would seem like removing this thing to the Dominix. The Dominix have a little brother, and a lot of people are simply afraid that the little brother will take all of the affection. But IMO, the Armageddon is just new, and guns never have been the primary strength of the Dominix : its only advantage on the guns field was its cheap price which will go away.

Meh the Hype is looking much better for Odyssey than it has in years. I was so busy drooling over the new Domi I only realized the Hype's new found awesomeness last night, and I'm very happy. It was after all my first BS (that I lost to a LvL 4 fail) but I always did love the look and sheer size of that ship.

EDIT: And to those saying new Geddon over new Domi in PvP I will say this... I don't want to fight that new Geddon with ANY ship, it makes me wet my pants